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THEMA: Science of Consciousness

Science of Consciousness 10 Jahre 6 Monate her #131

The Science of Consciousness as it is discussed here brings together the academic research on consciousness with the experiences and scientific understanding gained through research in consciousness through Transcendental Meditation.

The coming together of the objective and subjective consciousness related research started in the 1970s and was inspired by the knowledge brought to light by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, that there exists a least exited state of consciousness that is the basis from which the other states – waking, dreaming, and sleeping – arise.

Prior to that time consciousness was a topic studied independently by different branches of science, as well as by philosophy, religion and the various arts.
Consciousness has been taken into account also since ancient times in the traditional cultures still existing in different parts of the world, as the vedic culture of India.


Our discussions aim at showing, that by bringing together the most modern and most ancient knowledge of consciousness a holistic science of consciousness develops through which benefit the improvements in all areas of life simultaneously and automatically. This means, there is not much talking, writing, convincing and organizing necessary once specific channels or qualities of intelligence are enlivened in human consciousness: they are instantaneously, spontaneously, and synchronously functioning everywhere. This is because consciousness is a quantum reality where everything is connected with everything else, a property called infinite correlation.

In 1975 the First International Conference on Science and Consciousness was held both at Maharishi University of Management, USA and Maharishi European Research University, Switzerland. The conference brought together distinguished physicists, mathematicians, and leading neurophysiologists, in the presence of Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, for the purpose of examining the present status and future direction of scientific knowledge of the connection between physical laws and consciousness. Maharishi`s contributions of a practical method of bringing to individual awareness the pure consciousness state and his modern reinterpretation of ancient Vedic philosophy in the light of this experience were seen as relevant to the future development of physical theory. Topics discussed included:
1. parallels between quantum field theory (= nature based on the vacuum state)
and vedic philosophy (= nature based on the pure consciousness state)
2. current status of the relationship between the quantum theory of measuremenz and consciousness of the observer,
3. brain biophysics and its relationship to the origin of consciousness,
4. speculations on quantum coherent states in biology in general and the possibility of macroscopic quantum effects in the brain, especially with respect of the Transcendental Meditation technique.
5. Brain wave coherence and consciousness, especially brain wave studies on the pure consciousness state.

Distinguished scientists participated in the First International Conference on Science and Consciousness 1975:
H. Fröhlich, I. Prigogine, B. Josephson, J.S. Bell, G. Sudarshan, K.P. Sinha, B. Misra, R. Thom, F. Capra, R. Elul, N. Greenleaf, J. Lewis

The following Email-communication was inspired by the announcement of the Science of Consciousness Symposium in Stockholm, 2011, and gives a short factual overview of the current state of academic research, the persons and institution involved. Based on this overview an introduction to the current status of the Science of Consciousness is developed in this forum, by way of discussion.

Original Message
Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2011
Subject: Science of Consciousness Symposium in Stockholm, Sweden
From: Margot Suettmann

Toward a Science of Consciousness 2011 will be held at Stockholm University, Stockholm, Sweden, May 2-8, 2011.

In addition to Keynote and Plenary talks, Pre-Conference Workshops, Concurrent Talks, Poster Sessions, Art/Tech Demos, Social Events and Side Trips will occur in the Stockholm tradition.

Towards a Science of Conciousness Conferences have been held since 1994 under the direction of the Center for Consciousness Studies, Tucson, Arizona.
Toward a Science of Consciousness is the largest and longest-running interdisciplinary conference emphasizing broad and rigorous approaches to the study of conscious awareness. Topical areas include neuroscience, philosophy, psychology, biology, quantum physics, meditation and altered states, machine consciousness, culture and experiential phenomenology. Held annually since 1994, the conference is organized by the Center for Consciousness Studies at the University of Arizona, and alternates yearly between Tucson, Arizona and various locations around the world. The next conference Toward a Science of Consciousness is planned for April 9-14, 2012 in Tucson ARIZONA USA

I. Special Pre-Conference Workshop

Deepak Chopra:
Vedic approaches to consciousness Monday May 2, 2011
Full-day Workshop AULA MAGNA HALL
Consciousness: The Ultimate Reality
Eastern philosophy, quantum physics and cosmology. Buddhism and Vedanta have much in common with quantum physics and cosmology. Is consciousness inherent in the universe?

II. Keynote Address

Sir Roger Penrose
Consciousness and Physical Law
Sir Roger Penrose OM FRS is Emeritus Rouse Ball Professor at the Mathematical Institute at Oxford, and Emeritus Fellow at Wadham College. He is an historic and world-wide authority on the nature of reality, and renowned for pioneering work in black holes, twistors, spacetime geometry, cosmic censorship, Penrose tilings, quantum gravity and other areas. In 1989 he proposed consciousness as a particular form of quantum state reduction intrinsic to the universe, and later teamed with Stuart Hameroff to formalize the process in brain microtubules. His awards include the 1988 Wolf Prize (shared with Stephen Hawking). He has authored numerous books including The Road to Reality and Shadows of the Mind. His most recent book, Cycles of Time proposes serial universes preceding the Big Bang.

Consciousness and Physical Law, Abstract: A profound puzzle of quantum mechanics is that the discontinuous and probabilistic procedure adopted for measurement is in blatant contradiction with the continuous and deterministic unitary evolution of the Schrödinger equation. An inanimate measuring device, being made from quantum particles, ought to follow the unitary laws, so many physicists take the view that consciousness is ultimately needed for measurement. I here express the almost opposite view that the unitary law must be violated for massive enough systems, and that it is consciousness itself that depends upon this violation, requiring new physics and exotic biological structures for its manifestation. The issue of what kind of universe history could provide laws fine-tuned enough for consciousness to arise will also be raised.

III. Plenary Sessions

1. Philosophy
[01.02] Ontology of consciousness
1. Bohmian View of Consciousness and Reality Paavo Pylkkanen (School of Humanities and Infor, University of Skovde and Helsinki, Skövde, Sweden) PL6
[01.08] Higher-order thought
1. The Cemi Field Theory: Gestalt Information and the Meaning of Meaning Johnjoe McFadden (Faculty of Heath and Medical S, University of Surrey, Guildford, Surrey United Kingdom) PL1
2. Neuroscience
1. Backward Time Referral in the Amygdala of Primates Sara Gonzalez Andino , Rolando Grave De Peralta, Katalin M. Gothard (Department Of Clinical Neurosc, University of Geneva and Geneva University Hospital, Geneva, Switzerland) PL2
[02.01] Neural correlates of consciousness (general)
1. Neuroscience of Transcendent Experiences Mario Beauregard (Psychology And Radiology; Neur, Université De Montréal, Montreal, Quebec Canada) PL7
2. Time Effects in Human Cortical Neuronal Firings Moran Cerf (Computation and Neural Systems, New York University, Caltech, UCLA Dept. of Neurosurgery, Los Angeles, CA ) PL8
3. The Inner World as Simulated Interaction with the Environment Germund Hesslow (Depart. of Experimental Medici, Lund University, Lund, Sweden) PL12
4. Local Neuronal Ignitions and the Emergence of Perceptual Awareness Rafael Malach (Meurobiology, Weizmann Institute of Science, Rehovot, Israel) PL5
5. Endogenous Electric Fields Guide Cortical Network Activity David McCormick , Flavio Frohlich (Neurobiology, Yale University School of Medicine, New Haven, CT ) PL1
6. Neuronal Avalanches, Coherence Potentials, and Cooperativity: Dynamical Aspects that Define Mammalian Cortex Dietmar Plenz (Section on Critical Brain Dyna, National Institute of Mental Health, Bethesda, MD ) PL5
[02.03] Other sensory modalities
1. How we come to experience that we own our body: The cognitive neuroscience of body self-perception H. Henrik Ehrsson (Department of Neuroscience, Karolinska Institutet, Stockholm, Sweden) PL12
[02.06] Blindsight
1. "The Amyloid Trap" - Hypothesis of Alzheimer's disease Rudolph E. Tanzi (Director, Genetics and Aging R, Harvard University Joseph P. and Rose F. Kennedy Professor of Neurology, Boston, MA ) PL10
[02.08] Anesthesia
1.Surges of Electroencephalogram Activity at the Time of Death: A Case Series Lakhmir S. Chawla (George Washington University Medical Center, Washington, DC, ) PL14
2. Molecular and Neuronal Mechanisms of General Anesthesia Nicholas Franks (Biophysics, Imperial College, London, United Kingdom) PL13
3. Meyer-Overton Meets Quantum Physics: Consciousness, Memory and Anesthetic Binding in Tubulin Hydrophobic Channels Stuart Hameroff , Travis Craddock, Dept. of Physics, University of Alberta, Edmonton, AB, Canada; Jack Tuszynski, Division of Experimental Oncology, Cross Cancer Institute, Edmonton AB Canada (Anesthesiology, Psych, CCS, Center for Consciousness Studies, University of Arizona, Tucson, ) PL13
4. Anesthetics and Gamma Synchrony Anthony Hudetz (Department of Anesthesiology, Medical College of Wisconsin, Milwaukee, WI ) PL13
[02.09] Cellular and sub-neural processes
1. DNA, Waves and Water Luc Montagnier, M.D. (Nobel Laureate, World Foundation for AIDS Research and Prevention, UNESCO, Paris, France) PL9
2. Mechanical Waves and Consciousness William Tyler (School Of Biomedical Engineeri, Virginia Tech Carilion Research Institute, Blacksburg, VA ) PL4

3. Cognitive Sciences and Psychology
[03.09] Unconscious/conscious processes
1. Accessing Information Normally Beyond Conscious Awareness by Non-Invasive Brain Stimulation: Opening the Doors to Perception and Memory? Allan Snyder (Centre for the Mind at the University of Sydney, University of Sydney, NSW Australia) PL4
[03.18] Intelligence and creativity
1.The Psychological Flow Experience: From Phenomenology to Biological Correlates Fredrik Ullén (Dept of Women's & Children's, Karolinska Institutet, Stockholm, Sweden) PL12
4. Physical and Biological Sciences
[04.01] Quantum theory
1. Temporal Nonlocality in Bistable Perception Harald Atmanspacher (Theory and Data Analysis, Institute for Frontier Areas of Psychology, Freiburg, Germany) PL2
2.Direct Experimental Evidence for the Quantum States in Microtubules and Topological Invariance Anirban Bandyopadhyay (Advanced Scanning Probe Micros, National Institute for Materials Science, Tsukuba, Ibaraki Japan) PL10
3. Quantum Properties in Ion Channel Proteins and their Effect on Neural Signal Segregation and Perception Gustav Bernroider , Johann Summhammer (Organismic Biology, University of Salzburg, Salzburg, Austria) PL9
4. Quantum Physics and Eastern Philosophy Tarja Kallio Tamminen (Kalpa Taru, Helsinki, Finland) PL6
5. Consciousness and Physical Law Roger Penrose (Oxford University, Oxford, United Kingdom) PL11
6. DNA: On the Wave of Coherence Giuseppe Vitiello , Giuseppe Vitiello University of Salerno and Istituto Nazionale Di Fisica Nucleare, Gruppo Collegato Di Salerno, 84084 Fisciano (Salerno), Italy (Dept. of Mathematics and Infor, University of Salerno, Salerno, Italy) PL9
7. Consciousness in the Early Universe Paola Zizzi (Dept. o Psychology, University of Pavia, Pavia, Italy) PL3
[04.02] Space and time
1. Vedic Approaches to Consciousness and Reality Deepak Chopra MD (The Chopra Foundation, Carlsbad, CA ) PL3
2. The Grand Design of our Universe Leonard Mlodinow (Pasadena, CA ) PL3
[04.03] Integrative models
1. Consciousness and the Universe: Non-Local, Entangled, Probabilistic and Complementary Reality Menas Kafatos (Schmid College of Science, Chapman University, Schmid College of Science, Orange, CA ) PL6
[04.07] Bioelectromagnetics/resonance effects
1. Electromagnetic Field Theory of Consciousness: The Shape of Conscious Fields Sue Pockett (Waiheke Island, Auckland New Zealand) PL1
2. Information Processing within a Neuron via Electrodynamic Signaling by the Dendritic Cytoskeleton Jack A. Tuszynski (Department of Physics,, University of Alberta Edmonton, Edmonton AB,, Edmonton Canada) PL10
3. Transcranial Stimulation and Consciousness Eric Wassermann (NIH/NINDS, Bethesda, MD ) PL4
[04.10] Medicine and healing
1. Sacramental Plants of Amazonia: Consciousness Expansion, Self Knowledge and Religious Experience Padrinho Paulo Roberto (Church St. Daime, Rio De Janeiro, Brazil) PL7
5. Experiential Approaches
[05.04] Other altered states of consciousness
1. Differential Diagnosis Between Spiritual Experiences and Mental Disorders Alexander Moreira-Almeida (School of Medicine, Research C, Faculdade de Medicina da Universidade Federal de Juiz de Fora, Juiz De Fora, MG Brazil) PL7
[05.09] Parapsychology
1.Presentiment Dick Bierman (Psychology, University Of Amsterdam, Amsterdam, Netherlands) PL8
2.Death and the Loosening of Consciousness Peter Fenwick (Institute of Psychiatry, Kings College, Southampton Univ., London, United Kingdom) PL14

During the concurrent sessions at the 2011 symposium also research on Transcendental Meditation underway at Maharishi University of Management (MUM) is presented. Head of the research group at MUM is Fred Travis. His talk is entitled: "Quantum effects,brain functioning, consciousness and meditation practice".

From Fred Travis' Abstract for the Stockholm Conference:

We suggest that conscious awareness or qualia depends upon re-entrant circuits.
The ‘qualia’ re-entrant circuits would involve thalamic matrix nuclei, intralaminar and medial dorsal nuclei (the latter play a role in memory) recursively interacting with cortical association areas, especially the medial prefrontal cortex. While reentrant circuits with thalamic core nuclei (specific nuclei) hold content online; reentrant circuits with thalamic matrix nuclei (nonspecific nuclei) may, in a parallel way, hold ‘wakefulness’ online leading to subjective experience or qualia. The integrative functioning of these two parallel re-entrant circuits could underlie daily experience. Meditation practices explore these two parallel re-entrant circuits.

Original Message
Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2011
Subject: Interesting interview with Gerald M. Edelman,
From: Margot Suettmann
To: Bernd Zeiger

Interesting interview with Gerald M. Edelman, M.D., Ph.D., Nobel Laureate
who introduced the concept of re-entrant circuits in the brain.

G. M Edelman is Director of The Neurosciences Institute, a non-profit scientific research organization dedicated to learning about the brain.
Here the link to the interview:

Original Message
Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2011
Subject: Something more about Gerard Edelman's Theoretical Basis
From: Margot Suettmann
To: Bernd Zeiger

Re-entry is a neural structuring of the brain, specifically in humans,
which is hypothesized to allow for widely distributed groups of neurons
to achieve integrated and synchronized firing, which is proposed to be a
requirement for consciousness, as outlined by Gerald Edelman and Giulio
Tononi in their book A Universe of Consciousness. Metastable interactions
in the thalamocortical region of the brain cause a process
of selectionism through re-entry, a host of internal feedback loops.
“Re-entry”,as Edelman states, “provides the critical means by which the
activities ofdistributed multiple brain areas are linked, bound, and
then dynamicallyaltered in time during perceptual categorization. Both
diversity and re-entryare necessary to account for the fundamental
properties of consciousexperience.” These re-entrant signals are
reinforced by areas Edelman calls"degenerate". Degeneracy doesn't imply
deterioration, but instead redundancy as many areas in the brain handle
the same or similar tasks. With this brain structure emerging in early
humans, selection could favor certain brains and pass their patterns down
the generations. Habits once erratic and highly individual ultimately
became the social norm.

Original Message
Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2011
Subject: Something more about Gerard Edelman's Theoretical Basis
From: Dr.Zeiger

Liebe Margot,
am Schluss des Interviews
macht G.M. Edelman
die Bemerkung, dass das was akademisch als Wissenschaft bezeichnet wird
sich auf den unbeteiligten Beobachter bezieht, der getrennt vom Objekt
ist, während bei Forschungen im Bereich des Bewusstsein, der Beobachter
selbst das Objekt ist. Wörtlich sagt Edelmann:
Consciousness is a first person affair and science is a third person affair.
Diese Unterscheidung ist der Ausgangspunkt, wenn es darum geht die
Forderung (von Udo vom 3. April ) nach einer tragfähige Brücke zwischen
den persönlichen bewusstseinsbezogenen Erfahrungen (Selbst-Bezug) und
den Bewusstseinsforschungen des wissenschaftlichen Mainstream zu

Da wir mit der Transzendentalen Meditation eine systematische Methode
zur Verfügung haben, unmittelbar im Bewusstsein Erfahrungen zu machen und
Zustands-Unterschiede zu erkennen, wäre es ungeschickt, diesen Vorteil
zugunsten einer rein objektiven Betrachtungsweise aufzugeben Zumal es ja
auch im akademischen Bereich einige Pioniere gibt, die den objektiven
Forschungsansatz zu erweitern suchen.

An einer geeigneten Stellen des Verbindungsbereiches von Subjekt-Objekt
eine Position zu beziehen, ist ein Erfordernis der Zeit..

Nach meinem Kenntnisstand gibt es dazu gegenwärtig folgende auch von
Mainstream-Pionieren benutzte sprachlichen Ansätze, die ich hier zur
Standortbestimmung einmal aufliste. Die Liste beginnt mit den
überwiegend objektiven Ansätzen und endet mit überwiegend subjektiven.
Jeder der Bereiche kann wieder in zahlreiche Teilbereiche aufgegliedert
werden, von denen hier aber nur einige zur Illustration erwähnt werden:

1. kybernetische Ansätze (typisches Konzepte ist hier die
Rückkopplungsschleife, feedback-loop)
1.1 Computer-Schaltkreise (Digitale Modelle)
1.2 Analog-Modelle zum Gehirn

2. quantenmechanische Ansätze, die sich gemäss der Struktur des benutzen Vakuumzustandes (Grundzustandes) unterscheiden lassen,
2.1 quantenelektrodynamisches Vakuum,
2.2 entartetes Vakuum,
das z.B. in dem von Dir zitierten wikipedia-Artikel
so erklärt wird:
Metastable interactions in the thalamocortical region of the brain cause
a process of selectionism through re-entry, a host of internal feedback
loops. “Re-entry”, as Edelman states,“provides the critical means by
which the activities of distributed multiple brain areas are linked,
bound, and then dynamically altered in time during perceptual
categorization. Both diversity and re-entry are necessary to account for
the fundamental properties of conscious experience.” These re-entrant signals are reinforced by areas Edelman calls "degenerate". Degeneracy doesn't imply deterioration, but instead redundancy as many areas in the brain handle the same or similar tasks.
2.3 superflüssiges bzw. superleitfähiges Vakuum,
2.4 Vakuum-Landschaft der Stringtheorie

3. Vedische Wissenschaft
3.1 Ayurveda / Veda in der Physiologie
3.2 Vedische Mathematik
3.3 Maharishis Apaurusheya Bhasya.

Dies nur zur ersten Orientierung. Vielleicht wäre es nützlich, wenn wir mal gemeinsam eine relativ vollständige Liste der Brückenbereiche zwischen objektiver und subjektiver Bewusstseinsforschung erstellen würden, damit jeder eine klare Vorstellung darüber hat, wo der jeweilige Ansatz einzuordnen ist.

Ein guter Start dazu wären all die Präsentationen auf der von Dir erwähnten und Anfang Mai in Stockholm stattfindende Konferenz "Toward a Science of Consciousness" May 2-8, 2011,Stockholm University, Sweden

Diese Konferenz gibt einen guten Überblick über die derzeit vorherrschenden Ansätze und die wichtigsten Forscher. Bemerkenswert ist, dass Deepak Chopra als Repräsentant der vedischen Wissenschaft auftritt und neben Roger Penrose und Luc Montagnier zu den Star-Rednern zählt.
Fred Travis von der Maharishi University of Management spricht über
"Quantum effects,brain functioning, consciousness and meditation practice"
am 3. Mai in einer der Nachmittagssitzungen.

Nochmals herzlichen Dank für Deine Informationen
Jai Guru Deva

Original Message
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011
Subject: Re: G. Edelman/Science of Consciousness Symposium
From: Margot Suettmann
To: "Dr.Zeiger”

Lieber Bernd,
das ist eine sehr gute Zusammenfassung. Ja, ich stimme Dir zu, es wäre interessant an dem, was gerade Interesse hervorruft, teilzunehmen.

Ich war, ehrlich gesagt, erstaunt, dass Fred diesmal ein quantenmechanisches Thema (Quantenmechanik in der Biologie und Hirnforschung) genommen hat. Aber in diesem Bereich ist ja doch deutlich mehr Dynamik zur Zeit und es ist nicht mehr so ein totales Nischenthema wie vorher. Es hat an Reputation gewonnen. Es wäre interessant, sich in dies Thema (Quantum Effects in Biology) mehr einzuarbeiten und Du hast sicher gesehen, dass ausser Montagnier auch noch Bernroider und noch jemand über Qunatenbiologie spricht.

Ja, es ist irgendwie erstaunlich, dass Deepak bei solchen doch relativ profilierten Konferenzen immer unter den VIPs aufgefuehrt wird.

Andererseits was ich wirklich gut finde, waren seine Videos mit Rudolf Tanzi, immerhin eine namhafte Groesse der Harvard Medical School, der das Alzheimergen und andere Gene entdeckt hat. Er macht so spirituell-wissenschaftliche Ideen auch dem Nicht so wissenschaftlichen Mainstream vertraut. Frueher hat Maharishi solche Sachen initiiert. Leider hat Hagelin sich voellig zurueckgezogen aus dem Feld von Wissenschaft und Spiritualitaet.

Dies nur in Kuerze...


Original Message
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011
Subject: TM-related
From: Margot Suettmann
To: Bernd Zeiger

An other TM-related presentation at the Stockholm conference

John Russell Hebert
(Anesthesiology, VA Medical Center, Houston, Texas)

Alpha EEG In-phase standing wave: Evidence for a quantum source of consciousness

The source of consciousness is currently a profound topic of scientific interest and is still an open question. Our approach to this question examines two aspects inherent in both physics and consciousness: objectified and de-objectified. The brain exists on the visible, objective level described by particle (classical) physics. Even so, this objectified existence
has its basis in the sub-microscopic, quantum level of creation which is non-local, invisible, de-objectified and field-like. As we have pointed out in our previous work, consciousness has its own objectified and de-objectified aspects. The objectified waking consciousness is characterized by the experience of memories, emotion, thoughts and sensory perceptions, expressed neurologically as localized high frequency gamma oscillations in the electroencephalogram (EEG). When one experiences objectified states one is not aware of the fieldlike properties of consciousness. On the other hand the de-objectified state consciousness is experienced as abstract and field-like. Field properties are fundamental to the quantum level of functioning. The de-objectified state of consciousness is variously described by neuroscientists as a ground state, a global state without sensory-cognitive activity or a self-referral state. This category of conscious experience is captured in the EEG by slower, global EEG frequencies such as alpha and theta. The EEG is the ideal tool for investigating consciousness because of its brain-consciousness interface. On the one hand the EEG is reflective of the brain’s neural firing and on the other hand the EEG is a practical gauge of states of consciousness. Thus the EEG approach probes the brain- consciousness question through a measure that is functionally tied to both. The presentation of our published work will describe a unique EEG feature, called an in-phase alpha standing wave associated with the de-objectified state of consciousness. This pattern has been predicted by neural mass action theorists but never found in the research literature. Our discovery is potentially very important because it is empirical, repeatable and within the scope of current accessible technology.
Through phase synchrony analysis we determined that the reason the standing wave
develops is that the wavelength of alpha matches the longitudinal measure of the human cortex. Importantly this finding earmarks alpha as primary resonant frequency of the brain.
We will describe how this finding of unified wholeness in electrophysiology and consciousness satisfies key features of brain functioning deemed necessary for quantum brain dynamics as delineated by quantum consciousness theorists: e.g., long-range correlation, stationary character, low noise and the missing element of the quantum observer.. Concluding remarks:
From this neuroscience evidence we will propose that the basis of the objectified mind and the basis of the objectified brain are the same, the unified quantum field described by physics. This also implies that the quantum field is a field of consciousness. We will also propose that through the experience of the de-objectified transcendental state of consciousness we are connecting human physiology to the source of order in the universe. From our research we also conclude that the universe is self-aware and that conscious mind and physical body have a common source.

Original Message
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 05:21:19 +0200
Subject: Fwd: Another TM related abstract of the Stockholm Towards a Science of Consciousness Conference in May this Year
From: Margot Suettmann < Diese E-Mail-Adresse ist gegen Spambots geschützt! JavaScript muss aktiviert werden, damit sie angezeigt werden kann. >
To: Bernd Zeiger

Another TM related presentation of Stockholm Towards a Science of Consciousness Conference:

Shyamala Mruthinti
(Psychiatry, Veterans Medical Administration and Medical Colleg, Augusta, GA):

Sense-trapped mind can cause various mind-related diseases, while sense-released
mind charged with infinite consciousness can cure all ailments of body and mind

Consciousness was a taboo concept in U.S until 1950s which was secluded as non-scientific subject limited to philosophy and religion. It gained its acceptance and entrance into scientific research by none other than our Nobel Laureates: 1.Sir John Eccles in 1963 (who discovered that neuro-transmission is electrical and not chemical) and 2. Dr. Francis Crick (whose work on DNA along with Watson won them Nobel-Prize). However, consciousness was very deeply studied subject by nature scientists named as Vedic Rishis from 5-7,000 years ago. Crick says: a person’s mental activities are entirely due to the behavior of nerve cells, glial cells, and the atoms, ions, and molecules that make them up and influence them.
We have shown that certain neurons expressing alpha7 nicotinic receptors (crucial for memory) are lost in Alzheimer’s brain due to abnormal beta amyloid aggregates. We can also demonstrate similar loss of target neurons (alpha7) in petri-dishes which are treated with beta amyloid; yet where is the mind in these in-vitro cell cultured neurons? Mind is not an organ nor is limited to the brain, but mind uses neurons for its function. Mind is made of thoughts and thoughts arise from vacuum which can be vibrant enough in depressive and angry mind, to cause neuronal disruption similar to wind blowing through room on stormy night via open window. With number of drugs pumped into niche market, increasing number of psychiatric doctors and hospitals, patient number is also rising; which explains that the disease of the mind has to be dealt by altering the state of mind more than giving drugs.
Similar to our immune system which renders protection to our body from foreign invaders, unseen subtle, yet powerful-Web of Cosmic-Energy spinning wheels known as Kundalini-Chakras during TM, also dissipates positive energy gliding in an upward direction from base of spine; to rectify and correct blood-cells and neuronal-circuits to enable proper function of mind. Vedic Rishis (> 5000 years ago), have learned the art of freeing the mind from clutches of five senses through Yoga and Transcendental Meditation (TM). In TM, the mind is turned inward, the body is stilled and senses are controlled, and breathing is slow and steady, when the mind slowly emerges out of body consciousness to merge itself with Infinite Consciousness; similar to river flowing into an ocean to become one with an ocean. In such deep meditative state, the mind begins to see, experience, hear and understand the subtle Cosmic-vibrations. TM, corrects genes, proteins and protects neuronal-circuits. We are not this mortal body and our true existence resides in Immortal-Self, which is Omnipresent, Omniscient and Omnipotent. Knowing, understanding and Being one with Inner-Self (Aham- Brahma-Asmi or Thou Art That), human mind establishes itself in supreme consciousness to remain steadfast, unperturbed and indifferent to all adverse life-events, just like an ocean which is not affected by rising waves on the surface. A person who has thus established his/her mind in Infinite consciousness, remains free of disease of mind and body.
Letzte Änderung: 10 Jahre 6 Monate her von Dr. Bernd Zeiger.

Aw: Science of Consciousness 10 Jahre 6 Monate her #132


The presentations at the international symposium Towards a Science of Consciousness of 2011 give an overview of the current status of consciousness research which will be discussed here its relation to vedic science, the most ancient science of consciousness.

The Center for Consciousness Study at the University of Arizona, responsible for the symposium, organized the presentations in the following way which gives a detailed picture of the richness of research currently being undertaken:

1. Philosophy
[01.01] The concept of consciousness
[01.02] Ontology of consciousness
[01.03] Materialism and dualism
[01.04] Qualia
[01.05] Machine consciousness
[01.06] Mental causation and the function of consciousness
[01.07] The 'hard problem' and the explanatory gap
[01.08] Higher-order thought
[01.09] Epistemology and philosophy of science
[01.10] Personal identity and the self
[01.11] Free will and agency
[01.12] Intentionality and representation
[01.13] Miscellaneous

2. Neuroscience
[02.01] Neural correlates of consciousness (general)
[02.02] Vision
[02.03] Other sensory modalities
[02.04] Motor control
[02.05] Memory and learning
[02.06] Blindsight
[02.07] Neuropsychology and neuropathology
[02.08] Anesthesia
[02.09] Cellular and sub-neural processes
[02.10] Quantum neurodynamics
[02.11] Pharmacology
[02.12] Neural synchrony and binding
[02.13] Emotion
[02.14] Sleep and waking
[02.15] Specific brain areas
[02.16] Miscellaneous

3. Cognitive Sciences and Psychology
[03.01] Attention
[03.02] Vision
[03.03] Other sensory modalities
[03.04] Memory and learning
[03.05] Emotion
[03.06] Language
[03.07] Mental imagery
[03.08] Implicit and explicit processes
[03.09] Unconscious/conscious processes
[03.10] Sleep and dreaming
[03.11] Cognitive development
[03.12] Artificial intelligence & robotics
[03.13] Neural networks and connectionism
[03.14] Cognitive architectures
[03.15] Ethology
[03.16] Self-consciousness and metacognition
[03.17] Temporal consciousness
[03.18] Intelligence and creativity
[03.19] Miscellaneous

4. Physical and Biological Sciences
[04.01] Quantum theory
[04.02] Space and time
[04.03] Integrative models
[04.04] Emergent and hierarchical systems
[04.05] Nonlinear dynamics
[04.06] Logic and computational theory
[04.07] Bioelectromagnetics/resonance effects
[04.08] Biophysics and living processes
[04.09] Evolution of consciousness
[04.10] Medicine and healing
[04.11] Miscellaneous

5. Experiential Approaches
[05.01] Phenomenology
[05.02] Meditation,contemplation & mysticism
[05.03] Hypnosis
[05.04] Other altered states of consciousness
[05.05] Transpersonal and humanistic psychology
[05.06] Psychoanalysis and psychotherapy
[05.07] Lucid dreaming
[05.08] Anomalous experiences
[05.09] Parapsychology
[05.10] Miscellaneous

6. Culture and Humanities
[06.01] Literature and hermeneutics
[06.02] Art and aesthetics
[06.03] Music
[06.04] Religion
[06.05] Mythology
[06.06] Sociology
[06.07] Anthropology
[06.08] Information technology
[06.09] Ethics and legal studies
[06.10] Education
[06.11] Miscellaneous
[06.12] Anthony Freeman/JCS


Original Message
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2011
Subject: With so much data out there, our challenge is to organize it in ways we can understand.
From: Margot Suettmann

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Original Message
Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011
Subject: Social Networking... for scientists and researchers!
From: Margot Suettmann
To: Bernd Zeiger

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Original Message
Subject: Re: Fwd: G. Edelman/Science of Consciousness Symposium
From: Udo Redlich

Hallo Ihr beiden,
Ein wirklich spannendes, aber leider auch sehr zeitaufwendiges Thema. Ich seh mich zur Zeit nicht so sehr als Theoretiker, sondern eher als Praktiker in meiner täglichen psychotherapeutischen Arbeit. Mich erinnert das an ein Seminar im Studium, in dem wir uns mit evolutionärer Erkenntnistheorie beschäftigt haben. Also den Fähigkeiten des Menschen, sich schrittweise in Theoriebildung und Anwendung immer mehr an die Funktionsweise der Natur anzunähern in einem Konvergenzprozess.

In dieser Hinsicht sind anscheinend einige helle Köpfe unterwegs und man
muß immer am Ball bleiben, um mitreden zu können. Von da her könnte ich
verstehen, daß Hagelin sich raus gezogen hat.
Aber prinzipiell haben wir aus unserer Perspektive sicher einiges zu
Beste Grüße

Original Message
Date: Wed, 18 May 2011
Subject: Re: Fwd: G. Edelman/Science of Consciousness Symposium
From: Margot Suettmann
To: "UdoRedlich"

Weisst Du, dass Fred Travis im November nach Deutschland kommt und zwar
einerseits zum Yoga-Kongress von Yoga Vidyer als eingeladener Redner ueber SMMR (Lothar Heggmair) und zu einer Tour durch Deutschland.

Das ist ales noch ganz frisch. Fred hatte das kuerzlich erzaehlt.

Vielleicht kannst Du auch etwas arrangieren oder diesen Besuch irgednwie

Letzte Änderung: 10 Jahre 6 Monate her von Dr. Bernd Zeiger.

Aw: Science of Consciousness 10 Jahre 6 Monate her #135


Original Message
Date: Wed, 18 May 2011
Subject: FW: Re: Fwd: Science of Consciousness
From: Dr.Zeiger
To: "Margot Süttmann"

Thank you Margot for
the news about the tour of Fred Travis to Germany in November 2011.

This inspires me to continue elaborating in our Science Forum on the
current status of the Science of Consciousness, so that researchers in
Germany may benefit utmost from this tour.

If one compares the Berlin conference on Meditation and Science of last year with the recent Science of Consciousness Symposium in Stockholm it is obvious that science in Germany lacks in international perspective and is blocked by
ideological considerations.

Thanks goes to Udo who clearly expresses the fact that there are so
many brilliant minds currently working worldwide towards a science of
consciousness, that it would not be right to know only the
TM-researchers. Of course Transcendental Meditation is providing the
systematic subjective technology in the field of consciousness, but
because consciousness is truely a quantum field all the clear minds in
the world befit from it. In the field of consciousness there is no
separation of minds. To overcome any mental reserves it is important
for everyone to know the names and achievements of the formost and
internationally renowned reseachers in the field of consciousness.

Please Margot help me in this, so that I do not miss anyone significant.

With best wishes
Jai Guru Deva

Science of Consciousness 6 Jahre 3 Monate her #875

21st annual international, interdisciplinary conference on the fundamental questions connected with conscious experience held in Helsinki in June 2015 marks the end of an epoch which lasted 20 year. The conference organizers announced that "The next TSC conference (Tucson 2016) will drop the “Toward” from its name and is more ambitiously called The Science of Consciousness."
Toward a Science of Consciousness (TSC) has been the largest and longest-running interdisciplinary conference emphasizing broad and rigorous approaches to the study of conscious awareness. Held annually since 1994, the TSC conferences alternate yearly between Tucson, Arizona and various locations around the world. Conference Topic Areas cover
1. Philosophy
2. Neuroscience
3. Cognitive Sciences and Psychology
4. Physical and Biological Sciences
5. Experiential approaches
6. Culture and humanities

"The search for neural correlates of consciousness (or NCCs) is arguably the cornerstone in the recent resurgence of the science of consciousness. " David J. Chalmers (1998/2000)
"It should be noted that discovering and characterizing the Neural Correlates of Consciousness in brains is not the same as a theory of consciousness. Only the latter can tell us why particular systems can experience anything, why they are conscious, and why other systems - such as the enteric nervous system or the immune system - are not. However, understanding the Neural Correlates of Consciousness is a necessary step toward such a theory. "Florian Mormann and Christof Koch (2007), Scholarpedia, 2(12):1740.
"Models of consciousness should be distinguished from so-called neural correlates of consciousness (Crick & Koch 1990). While the identification of correlations between aspects of brain activity and aspects of consciousness may constrain the specification of neurobiologically plausible models, such correlations do not by themselves provide explanatory links between neural activity and consciousness. Models should also be distinguished from theories that do not propose any mechanistic implementation (e.g., Rosenthal’s ‘higher-order thought’ theories, Rosenthal 2005). Consciousness models are valuable precisely to the extent that they propose such explanatory links (Seth, 2009)." Anil Seth (2007), Scholarpedia, 2(1):1328.

Betreff: Fw: Fwd: East-West Forum, Helsinki,.
Datum: Tue, 09 Jun 2015
Von: "Peter Kiefer"
An: "Bernd Zeiger"

From: Margot Suettmann
Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2015
Subject: Fwd: East-West Forum, Helsinki, Below some abstracts I found interesting.

John Hagelin has been co-chairing the East-West Forum yesterday as part of the Towards a Science of Consciousness in Helsinki.
Below some abstracts I found interesting. Margot

Consciousness as a property of the universe
Stuart Hameroff

Creation through Observation and the Quantum Zeno Effect: Comparative Analysis of Two Theories from East and West
Subhash Kak

A Possible Universal Source of Proto Consciousness
Mani Bhaumik

Consciousness: Down the Rabbit Hole
Entanglement, Space-Time Wormholes, and the Brain

John Hagelin

Towards a deeper integration of Western and Eastern views of Consciousness

Max Velmans

Quantum biology, nanotechnology, and the implications for an integrative medicine
Douglas E. Friesen

Spiritually-Inspired Quantum Dynamics of Consciousness
Sukhdev Roy

Systems spiritual quantum theory of creation and consciousness and its representation by Bonds graph
Mani Sundaram, Prem Sundaram

Nature of Pure Consciousness according to the Upanishads
Durga Prasada Rao

Entrepreneurial Intuition

Arsh Dayal

From: Margot Suettmann
Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2015
Subject: East-West Forum, Helsinki

J. Hagelin summarising his contribution to the TSC-Conference 2015 said :

"It's about HOW our human brain can access Universal Intelligence--the Unified Field--when even the mightiest particle accelerators cannot."

Doesn`t this contradict Maharishi`s expression from Celebration Perfection in Education "potentially lively, potentially awake at every level of its expression"
Also Rig Veda says:
"The Atman, subtler than the subtle, greater than the great, is seated in the heart of each living being. He who is free from desire, with his mind and the senses composed, beholds the majesty of the Self and becomes free from sorrow."

Betreff: wondering
Datum: Fri, 12 Jun 2015
Von: "Dr.Zeiger"
An: "Peter Kiefer" "Margot Suettmann"

Liebe Margot,
Deine Mail enthält eine Reihe von sehr schönen Aussagen
(a) über die quantenmechanische Realität und
(b)die Beziehung von klassischer und quantenmechanischer Realität

Es ist in diesem Zusammenhang hilfreich die verschiedenen jeweils eingenommen Standpunkte klar zu unterscheiden und zu benennen.

Insbesondere ist die klassische Realität VOR der Erfahrung der quantenmechanischen Realität eine andere als NACH der Erfahrung der quantenmechanischen Realität
d.h. der Weg vom rein Klassischen zum Quantenmechanischen ist ein Prozess des Transzendierens (Dritter Hauptsatz der Thermodynamik)
während der Übergang vom Quantenmechanischen zum Klassischen ein Prozess des Erinnerns an das Klassische im Quantenmechanischen ist.

Der Grund ist, dass das rein Klassische niemals quantenmechanisch ist, während das Quantenmechanische das Klassische mit einschliesst.

Der Ausdruck "potentially lively, potentially awake at every level of its expression" macht nur Sinn nach der Verwirklichung des Quantenmechanischen und besagt, dass der Vakuumzustand eines Feldes während aller Quantenzustande eines Systems existiert d.h. sowohl während dessen Grundzustand als auch während aller angeregter Zustände des Systems.

When John Hagelin sagt
" human brain can access Universal Intelligence--the Unified Field--when even the mightiest particle accelerators cannot."

dann heisst das vorallem auch, dass Teilchenbescheuniger überwiegend klassisch agieren während das menschliche Nervensystem überwiegend quantenmechanisch agiert. "a particle accelerator acts in a predominantly classical way while the human nervous system acts in a predominantly quantummechancial way"

Stillschweigend wird also eine bestimmte Sichtweise eingenommen, die nicht explizit ausgesprochen wird.

herzliche Grüsse
Jai Guru Deva

Betreff: coherence
Datum: Fri, 12 Jun 2015
Von: "Dr.Zeiger"
An: "Peter Kiefer","Margot Suettmann"

Dear Margot
here a short comment to your question:
"How then are coherence and Unified Field or non-local consciousness related?"

The term coherence has many different meanings in science in partticular in physics. In Physics there are at least three distinct types of coherence with many subdivisions in each category
I quantum coherence ( entanglement, infinite correlation, EPR, non-locality, uncertainty, etc)
II. coherent states (minimum uncertainty,canonical coherence, non-linear coherent, etc)
III.collective coherence(order parameter, macroscopic quantum coherence, field vacuum,etc.

The relationship between the degree of coherence of the electrical brain activity
and the different notions of coherence defined in physics is largly open but urgently needs clarification to satisfactory answer the question of John Hagelin :

"HOW our human brain can access Universal Intelligence?"

The answer to this crucial question still needs a lot a research.

best wishes
Jai Guru Deva

From: Margot Suettmann
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2015
Subject: "HOW our human brain can access Universal Intelligence?"

Someone questioned the the verb "can access." and suggest "reflect, transduce, receive"

But to me "to reflect, transduce, receive" seem much weaker than the vocabulary we have been hearing from Maharishi in the Science of Being and Art of Living, the chapter "Key to Good Health", sub-chapter "Physiological Effects of Transcendental Meditation" (page 189 at the bottom and continuing over the next pages (leaving out some for this purpose not as relevant sentences)

"That is why the activity of the body and that of the nervous system is lessened during Transcendental Meditation. This explains why, during Transcendental Meditation, as the mind proceeds to experience finer states of a thought, the whole body becomes calm and quiet. This quieting of the body naturally allows an usual degree of rest, which itself stores energy to a considerable degree. It is certain that the activity of the mind and nervous system is least in this state, and, thus, the mind becomes quiet and calm. In this quiet state the mind and the nervous system are alterly poised like the arrow drawn fully back upon the bow; they re without activity, but the entire system is alert in stillness. At the same time, all the mechanisms of the body are acutely balanced and steady. It is this restful alertness of the nervous system that is its most healthy state and is the basis of all energy and action.
This restful alertness of the nervous system is a state of suspension wherein the nervous system is neither active nor passive. This state of no-activity and no-passivityis the state of Being. This is how the nervous system is brought to the level of Being., and coming in tune with Being, the nervous system reaches a level of limitless energy and eternal existence of Being. It is the like the whole tree coming in direct attunement with the field of its nourishment. The nervous system gains the most normal and healthy state. Here lies the key to good health. (…) Activity belongs to the relative fields, whereas Being is of trnscendental absolute nature. Maintenance of the body is dependent upon both subtle and gross fields of activity. If the body could be brought to a state where its activity stops, but the nervous system were not allowed to be passive, if it could be in a state where it was neither active nor passive, the activity fo the body would then be on the level of Being. If the metabolic process could just remain still without rendering the body passive, it would place the activity on the level of Being.
When we talk of the level of Being, let us first see clearly what we mean. Being is the essential constituent of the individual. It is just there, everything and its unmanifest state forming the basis of everything ad every phenomenon. It is the basis of the mind and matter, the basis of the entire manifest creation. This state of Being is out of all relative existence; that’s why it is called transcendnetal and absolute: transcendnetal because if is out of all relative creation, absolute because it does not belong to the relative existence. It is never-changing, eternal existence. Like the sap in a tree, Being is omnipresent in creation. It is the ultimate source of all energy, intelligence, ceativity, and activity. It, in Itself, is neither ctive, nor passive. It is the source or the fountainhead of all activity and all passivity.
(..) Any state of life which could belong to neither activity nor passivity goes out of relative existence and naturally belonmgs to the field of absolute Being, and that which belongs to the field of absolute Being gains the status of absolute Being Itself. For nothing other than Itself can be It.
Thus it is clear that if the metabolic process which keeps the body alive and maitains the coordination of body and mind in the relative field of existence could be brought physiologically to a state of estful alterness, a state where the metabolic processwould slow into a state of no-passivity, the state of life could be placed on the level of Being. (…)
If the nervous system could be established in a state that is enither active nor pssive, but in a state of restful alertness, there would certainly be produced a condition for awareness on the plane of Being. If such a state could be accomplished by the nervous system, the nervous system in that stte would assume the role of a platform for the relative and absolute sttes of life to meet.The nervous system then, as far as its ability to produce conscious awreness is concerned, would be on the plane of
Being, o Being would be brought to the level of the nervous system.
How is this possible? What approach could be adopted to produce such a physiological state of the nervous system? Physiologically, the functioning of the nervous system depends upon the metabolic process. The metabolic process depends mainly upon breathing. If by some means the breathing could be slowed down, made softer, or reduced in amplitude, the metabolic process would thereby be reduced. And if the breathing could be brought to a state where it was neither active, nor passive, that state of extremely delicate breath, where the breath could be said to be flowing and yet not flowing, the metabolism would be established in a state of supension between activity and no-activity on the level of Being. This would harmonize the body with Being. Life would be sustained, but its expression would be silent in the relative existence. This is the state of the nervous system which would keep the mind awake in itself, and, with reference to this state of self-awreness of the mind, the whole body would be sustained in itself.
A state of no physical change in the body wil exist, the whole physical structure and all matter of the body will just be suspended on the level of the pure state of life: a state where the process of evolution or the process of change has stopped building up or deteriorating, where the change has ceased to be. The whole body has thus been placed on the level of Being, s has the mind. Mind and matter both, forming the gross and subtle aspects of the individual, have been changed to one level of never-changing existence, the level of eternal, absolute Being. Here they lie together in unity with one another, for both have gained the same level of life. If one hesitates yo accept the notion that in this state the mind and body are united in one state of life, let the statement be made tht, in this suspended state, mind and body are in perfect coordination with each other. The individual mind is one with pue consciousness or absolute intelligence, and the body in this state of perfect health is resting in full accord with the mind. (…) Such a perfect state with regard to body and mind and their mutual relationship is only possible on the level of Being. And it is possible only when either the mind is brought to the level of Being o the body is brought to the level of Being."

Betreff: coherence
Datum: Fri, 12 Jun 2015
Von: "Dr.Zeiger"
An: "Peter Kiefer","Margot Suettmann"

Dear Margot,
the argument that the Brain also is the Unified Field or "pure consciousness" is supported by Vaisheshika

Atma (unified field) according to Vaisheshik is one of the nine substances every object in creation is made of. Hence also the brain IS Atma but dominantly it is acting as Manas.

From: Margot Suettmann
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2015
Subject: "HOW our human brain can access Universal Intelligence?"

Yes Maharishi even differentiates between mind and body and says that both can be on the level of Being.

Since the nervous system seams to be the ONLY means which allows Being to DIRECTLY project itself into relativity - we need maybe a completely new scientific language and perspective to describe a "suitable" human nervous system - for which there exists no model yet (such as in other examples of macroscopic quantum coherence).

Betreff: coherence
Datum: Fri, 12 Jun 2015
Von: "Dr.Zeiger"
An: "Peter Kiefer","Margot Suettmann"

Dear Margot
here a further short comment to your question:

"How then are coherence and UF or non-local consciousness related?"

The term coherence has many different meanings in science in partticular in physics. In Physics there are at least three distinct types of coherence with many subdivisions in each category
I quantum coherence ( entanglement, infinite correlation, EPR, non-locality, uncertainty, etc)
II. coherent states (minimum uncertainty,canonical coherence, non-linear coherent, etc)
III.collective coherence(order parameter, macroscopic quantum coherence, field vacuum,etc.

The relationship between the degree of coherence of the electrical brain activity
and the different notions of coherence defined in physics is largly open but urgently needs clarification
to satisfactory answer the question of John Hagelin :

"HOW our human brain can access Universal Intelligence?"

The answer to this crucial question still needs a lot a research.

best wishes
Jai Guru Deva

Betreff: Quantum behaviour
Datum: Sat, 13 Jun 2015
Von: "Dr.Zeiger
An: "Margot Suettmann

Dear Margot,
probably it is not wise to confess this to you, but am old enough to not feel shy about it:

I have learnt quantum mechanics first through the words of Maharishi and later on found confirmation of what he said in the scientific literature and in my own research.
(All this started after my Diploma in chemistry around 1970 and the first confirmation was a paper of Hans Primas from 1969 in which he discussed the possibility of "macroscopic quantum states" in large molecules e.g. proteins and DNA.)
Maharishis approach to teach quantum behaviour was by starting from the experience in Transcendental Meditation and I remember him saying
"uncertainty in quantum mechanics means all possibilties",
"the wave function is a wave of feeling",
"the role of h (Plancks Constant) is to h-armonize(the classical with the quantum mechanical)".

Another typical quote of Maharishi is
"the qualities of infinite correlation and perfect orderliness inherent in the wave function at the quantum mechanical level become expressed as order on the classical surface level of reality when the degree of excitation is minimized."
Such remarks of Maharishi made me understand what quantum behaviour means.
From the perspective of TM quantum behaviour can be expressed in simple words.
The technical terms of quantum mechanics still mirror this simplícity once one has TM as key but also add some additional intellectual insights.

Quantum mechanics and TM belong together like Sankhya and Yoga, they support each other
With best wishes

Betreff: AW: Fwd: ??!
Datum: Sun, 14 Jun 2015
Von: "Dr.Zeiger"
An: "Margot Suettmann"

Dear Margot,
as Maharishi explicitly expressend in the beginng days of his teaching and as his later teachings can be understood as well: every object in the universe has a nervous system because every object has besides his body made of the 5 elements (plus time and orientation) an Atma and Manas. Nerveous system in its general sense is just an other word for the Gap between classical and quantum reality which is a ubiquiteous phenomenon.

The special feature of the human nerveous system is - according to Maharishi and as explizitely expressed in the Science of Being - that it has such a dual structure that the quantum and classical reality may coexsist permanently and thus allows Cosmic Consciousness.

Betreff: Re: Fwd: ??!
Datum: Sun, 14 Jun 2015
Von: Margot Suettmann
An: "Dr.Zeiger"

I am partticular interesed in the style of functioning of body and nerveous system in the state of "no change".

Betreff: the right way
Datum: Mon, 15 Jun 2015
Von: "Dr.Zeiger"
An: msuettmann

Dear Margot,
according to my understanding the answer to your question is given by the Third Law of Thermodynamics which (using the words of Maharishi) has the following consequence:
"the qualities of infinite correlation and perfect orderliness inherent in the wave function at the quantum mechanical level becomes expressed as classical order on the classical surface level of reality when the degree of excitation is minimized."

When the meaning of this very compact expression is analysed systematically in all details then the answer to the question you pose is revealed. Infact it seems to me, your question is the centrel question in science since the early 20th century

From my own experience I know , if one tries to answer your question systematically all the conceptual tools developed by Quantum Physics become relevant succesively depeding how specific the answer should be. One of the first distinctions /clarifications is between Quantum Coherence (infinite correlation, entanglement, etc) and Collective Coherence (macroscopic quantum coherence,etc.).

The second step is to look into the gap between these two phenomena and the mechanics of transition from the quantum to the classical in particular in the state of least excitation and/or "low temperature" realm.

In the 1990 I had the unique opportunity to probe into all these questions and so I know quite well which steps one has to take and which mistakes one can make.

The ultimate answer one arrives at when expressed in simple words is contained in Maharishis expression cited above.

But you have to find the answer yourself in your own unique way
No one can give it to you from outside.
Of course this does not mean that you shoud stop questioning.
in the contrary, only through questions the answers come.
So I will be happy to hear from you
all what comes up
all what bothers you. etc.
but stay on your own way
it is the right way
best wishes

Betreff: Re: the right way
Datum: Mon, 15 Jun 2015
Von: Margot Suettmann
An: "Dr.Zeiger"

Dear Bernd,
I do not have much knowledge of Quantum Physics
but I think about the sentence
" the qualities of infinite correlation and perfect orderliness inherent in the wave function at the quantum mechanical level becomes expressed as classical order on the classical surface level of reality when the degree of excitation is minimized."
Does this mean that the expression of order requires the degree of exicitation to be minimal?
I like to understand more about Gisin's Theorem.
"Physicists demonstrate new violations of local realism"(June 10, 2015)
Jing-Ling Chen, et al. "Beyond Gisin's Theorem and its Applications: Violation of Local Realism by Two-Party Einstein-Podolsky-Rosen Steering." Sci. Rep. 5, 11624; DOI: 10.1038/srep11624. To be published. Also at arXiv:1404.2675
Quantum test strengthens support for EPR steering(Oct 14, 2014)

Betreff: stirring EPR
Datum: Tue, 16 Jun 2015
Von: "Dr.Zeiger"
An: "Margot Suettmann"

Dear Margot,
thank you for pointing out to me the current development in the field of Quantum Coherence (entanglement, non-locality, EPR) as initiated by the experimental work of Nicolas Gisin,(Université de Genève).

I was not aware how clearly nowadays the fine steps of the emergence of the classical are distinguished, while remaining to a large degree within or close to the realm of Quantum Coherence.

It is a great joy just to read the short texts you have send.

Reading them again and again is probably the easiest way to understand more, because all expressions are close to the border line where speech ends.

Only because most of the physicist still prefers the classical language funny terms like "violation of local realism" are used. In the classical perspective and language imprisonment is the normal state and freedom violation of imprisonment. There is "fear of the unknown" due to long term imprisonment.

But the fact that theorists are able to conceive all these fine distinctions, indicates rapid increase of coherence in the collective consciousness of menkind. It appears to me that the world wide electronic structure of the Internet soon wil play (or already does play) the role of the nerveous system (or collective mind) of world consciousness.

Thank you for your "EPR-stirring"
Jai Guru Deva

Datum: Sun, 14 Jun 2015
Von: Margot Suettmann
An: Bernd Zeiger


Directly before that David Chalmers speaks and at the very beginning Susan Blackmore speaks....

But Chopra and Hameroff presents the most interesting ideas. By the way, Hameroff mentions in this interview, he is working on a new book called The Quantum Pleasure Principle.

Datum: Mon, 15 Jun 2015
Von: "Dr.Zeiger"
An: "Margot Suettmann"

What Chopra and Hameroff say remind me of the illustration Maharishi used to explain how bliss (wavefunktion - unbounded consciousness) becomes blissful through gentle stirring
e.g. when sitting in a bathtup with warm water, the experience of warmth comes by moving slightly.

The pleasure principle is the principle of attention - directed consciousness.

Datum: Mon, 15 Jun 2015
Von: Margot Suettmann
An: "Dr.Zeiger"

yes and also Maharishis principle of evolution "expansion of happiness is the purpose of creation" ......
Hameroff calls this the quantum pleasure principle and is writing a book on it. This is a new development because usually no one sees teology in the randomness of quantum physics. On the other side has the derterminism of classical physics no place for free will

Betreff: Quantum ideas in consciousness studies -
Datum: Thus, 16 Jun 2015
Von: Margot Suettmann
An: Bernd Zeiger

just saw this contribution to TSC 2015:
Quantum ideas in consciousness studies
Harald Atmanspacher, Institute for Frontier Areas of Psychology and Mental Health, Freiburg, GERMANY
Starting with early speculations by Niels Bohr and others, the proposal to apply basic ideas of quantum theory to mental systems has received increasing attention over past decades. While a number of approaches focus on quantum physical mechanisms for brain activity, others try to utilize formal quantum structures to study mental and behavioral processes directly, leaving open the question of how these are correlated with brain activity. Attempts of the latter kind, using quantum ideas in consciousness studies, have led to successful approaches to understand challenging problems in psychology and cognitive science.
It is a key conceptual insight in this new field that the observation of a mental state does not only yield a result (quantitative or qualitative), but also implies a generally uncontrollable backreaction on that state. This feature can be formally expressed in terms of non-commuting operations. Examples from the areas of (low-and-high-level) decision making and learning will be presented to demonstrate how non-commutativity and its consequences can predict and explain

Betreff: Brain-to-Brain coupling: A mechanism for creating and sharing a social world
Datum: Fri, 19 Jun 2015
Von: Margot Suettmann
An: Bernd Zeiger

Is entanglement happening here - and maybe also between mother (primary attachment relationship) and child (infant child)?
Why two (or more) brains are better than one.
Maharishi used to repeatedly state that the subtle aspect of every thought is “a faint feeling”.
Emotions have a great potential to synchronize brain activities across individuals. Didn't Maharishi mention that there is a special function and relevance in having celebrations and festivals on a social level and that those would dissolve "tensions" in the community? Maybe due to the synchronization of brain wave activity across individuals? Also, would that insight that emotions can establish synchrony (of course not of alpha 1, but on some levels) be beneficial to take notice of in any company or organization?
Also, emotions play a big role in mother-infant/child relationship - a topic I am dealing with. Emotions had previously been neglected somewhat in cognitive and developmental science.

Uri Hasson,1,2 Asif A. Ghazanfar,1,2 Bruno Galantucci,3,4 Simon Garrod,5 and Christian Keysers6,7
Brain-to-Brain coupling: A mechanism for creating and sharing a social world
Trends Cogn Sci. Feb 2012; 16(2): 114–121. Published online Jan 3, 2012. doi: 10.1016/j.tics.2011.12.007

Jonas Richiardi1, Andre Altmann1, Anna-Clare Milazzo, Catie Chang, M. Mallar Chakravarty,Tobias Banaschewski, Gareth J. Barker, Arun L.W. Bokde, Uli Bromberg, Christian Büchel,Patricia Conrod, Mira Fauth-Bühler, Herta Flor, Vincent Frouin, Jürgen Gallinat, Hugh Garavan,Penny Gowland, Andreas Heinz, Hervé Lemaître, Karl F. Mann, Jean-Luc Martinot, Frauke Nees1,Tomáš Paus, Zdenka Pausova, Marcella Rietsche, Trevor W. Robbins, Michael N. Smolka25,Rainer Spanagel26, Andreas Ströhle15, Gunter Schumann, Mike Hawrylycz, Jean-Baptiste Poline,Michael D. Greicius1:

Correlated gene expression supports synchronous activity in brain networks
Science 12 June 2015: Vol. 348 no. 6240 pp. 1241-1244
DOI: 10.1126/science.1255905

Jiang, J., Chen, C., Dai, B., Shi, G., Liu, L., & Lu, C. (2015).
Leader emergence through interpersonal neural synchronization.
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Betreff: Entanglement
Datum: Fri, 19 Jun
Von: Margot Suettmann
An: Bernd Zeiger

from R. John Hagelin's laudatio on Sept. 16, 2014
for Dr. Rupert Sheldrake 2014, recipient of the Doshi Family Bridgebuilder Award at Loyola Marymount University

"Because science is empirically based, evidence-based, empirically driven, it evolves sometimes rather slowly, but methodically and deliberately and inexorably moves in the direction of a more complete truth, more complete understanding. And with the benefits of decades of scientific hindsight, the ideas, the core ideas that Rupert (Sheldrake) was advancing long ago are no longer so enigmatic. And, in fact, evolution of science and quantum mechanics and entanglement and string theory and epigenetics are starting to give a glimpse and insight into the ideas and illumine a rudimentary understanding in the principles and mechanisms that may be driving morphic resonance and the morphogenetic field and so forth. Quantum mechanics and entanglement - quantum entanglement is understood more and more richly. It is this mysterious correlation among separated particles under certain circumstances where they have an influence on each other at a distance, faster than the speed of light, and yet somehow constrained by relativistic causality.

Well, what happens there, it's rather mysterious, what happens there, the evolution there is that these correlations among separated objects which Einstein considered spooky, so spooky that he abandoned quantum mechanics, are now probably not such a rare thing, as had been thought, that they are the product of very careful preparation, arbitrary preparation. Now it seems due to the work of Hameroff and colleagues and others that these quantum connections, quantum entanglements are ubiquous and that the material world is criss-crossed by these long-range entanglements.

And, for example, common understanding in mathematical models is that systems that interact frequently, objects that interact frequently, have a rich set of these correlations - which are REAL, by the way. They can be exploited in the laboratory, quantum computing and quantum teleportation, to send vast amounts of information in these hidden, unmanifest, quantum mechanical connections. And now it seems that these connections are ubiquous. If you have a closely interacting system of objects, the connections, quantum mysterious, long-range connections among these will be rich.

To put it in human terms, if you have a family that interacts frequently, closely, intimately, you gonna have strong correlations among family members, a strong imprint on your family members, so that even at a distance you carry that feeling and you carry the connection with you. It's a physical thing through which information can be passed. Or a closely knit culture or society that shares a common language, culture, that is tuned into the same media, that interacts culturally. There should be strong correlations, quantum correlations, entanglements between such a society. And these entanglements are a web of information, an information field, a morphogenetic field that gives rise to a collective consciousness and collective behavior. This is something we know empirically. There is a lot of research on these phenomena. But now scientifically we can say "Yes, it's okay! " because we have the beginnings of a mechanism, an established quantum principle that shows that these phenomena should be real. And there is another thing that I should be mentioning about these quantum correlations that , I think, is very exciting as a string theorist. It is that these are rather abstract and they are the inevitable result of the mathematical formulas of quantum mechanics. So they are presumably real and have been shown to work [here Hagelin is speaking in a low voice and fast and his speech is a little unclear] with quantum computing and quantum teleportation. But these days - surprisingly from quantum gravity and M theory - we understand that separated objects, separated particles that are quantum correlated, quantum entangled, are actually connected by relativistic strings. They are actually the endpoints of a superstring, an open string. And the string actually traverses a fourth dimension of space and allows for physical connections, communication, between those endpoints, with the particles. And to make it a little more concrete: These strings as they evolve in time, sweep out a two-dimensional world sheet, that has the topology and the causal structure of a non-traversable wormhole. So basically what that means is that there are wormholes or tunnels through space that connect distant, but quantum correlated objects which include all of us. But is does show that there is a physical link where that had been a merely abstract sort of mathematical concept before. So as science progresses, the abstract becomes concrete. And the unknown becomes known. And the incomprehensible becomes comprehensible."

Betreff: thoughts on EPR steering
Datum: Sat, 20 Jun 2015
Von: "Dr.Zeiger"
An: margot suettmann

Dear Margot,
in the last days I went through some of the mails you recently have sent in connection with the conference on Science of Consciousness(TSC) in Helsinki.

It seems to me that the research you mentioned on the interplay of the quantum reality (entanglement, "being" ) and the process of observation (measurement, "attention") relates to fundamental aspects of the science of consciousnes:
1. measuring quantum coherence (entanglement)
2. quantum computation (effortless mental activity)
3. life nourishing attention (love)

In particular EPR steering as quantum behaviour which exhibts directionality or asymmetry in contrast to entanglement may provide a mechanism to understand the flow of "loving understanding" in personal relationship.
Here some statements which seem to support the idea that "EPR steering" can serve as a model of "directed but effortless attention":

1. confirming attention:
"the strong correlations inherent in shared entanglement—for example, between two parties—allows secure messaging and quantum information transfer, potentially over long distances."

"EPR-steering witnesses entanglement (but not vice versa)"
"EPR-steering is a form of nonlocality intermediate between Bell-nonlocality and nonseparability"

2. confirming directionality:
"Steering , Schroedinger’s term for the EPR effect, is in-herently asymmetric."
"Schrodinger’s term is appropriate because this task can be performed only if one party (Alice) demonstrates that she can steer the state of the other party’s (Bob’s) sub-system, via her choice of measurement setting."

3. confirming effortlessness:
"quantum or Einstein–Podolsky–Rosen steering, a weaker form of quantum correlation, can be verified for arbitrarily low detection efficiencies and high losses."
"The states exhibiting steering can tolerate higher noise. It should also be noted that steering inequalities exist for an arbitrarily high degree of loss"

At first glance EPR steering also seems to fit to the following expressions of Maharishi:
1. "Love as love is universal.
2. "Personal love is concentrated universal love."
3. "Love binds but binds in freedom"

May be these observations on EPR steering are useful for you.
Best wishes
Jai Guru Deva
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